Location: 1,000ft over the Bristol Channel
Date: Saturday 24-9-16
Time: Around 9.30pm
Last night (26/9/16) I had a phone call from a reporter from the Bristol Post Newspaper, apparently last Saturday a police helicopter pick up a ufo on their thermal imaging camera, and they were running a story on it,
police-helicopter-crew-baffled-by-own-footage-that-could-be-ufo-flying-over-bristol-channel
Date: Saturday 24-9-16
Time: Around 9.30pm
Last night (26/9/16) I had a phone call from a reporter from the Bristol Post Newspaper, apparently last Saturday a police helicopter pick up a ufo on their thermal imaging camera, and they were running a story on it,
police-helicopter-crew-baffled-by-own-footage-that-could-be-ufo-flying-over-bristol-channel
© CUFORG Dave Gillham
Date and Location of Sighting:- 1983 in Wistaston Cheshire UK.
Joe Glover sighting.
Hi David this is my Experience and what i witnessed in the summer of 1983 ok. Well this all started one weekend in August 83 i took my bike out as i did then and went to the woods on my own to ride around. As i entered the woods about 50mtr in front of me was a very small lady coming out of the woods but as i looked closer noticed wasn’t quite right about it was 4ft tall and the walk was odd and it also had a blanket of its head going down just passed the knees then it stopped. I soon realised something wasn’t right now you know when people say i can feel your stear because it did not turn its head but new i was looking at it so frightened i rode off quickly and as i did i heard the scariest scream ever not like a normal scream you would here say from an old lady oh the legs just below the knees were very thin not human like. So rode home told my mother to which i think she said don’t go back so i never. Several weeks later a sunny weekend me and my friend Steven went across the fields to play not far from where i had saw the thing. As we walked, me just in front of Steve i entered a small wooded area not very big and there in the centre of the wood about 40ft away was this small craft or object about 4 1/2 to 5ft long hovering about 4 to 5ft off the ground black and made no sound the best way i can describe the shape is of being like a stealth plane with no wings and came to a point at the end. I stood looking for 10sec completely amazed the object was alive i guess its energy was unmistakable it was as if it had its own time like it wasn’t afraid. Now at this point i get selfish because Steven hadn’t noticed it but i had and i wanted it for myself but then i said what is that and he basically shit his pants he screamed at me for us to go even threatened me at one point so i reluctantly went.
We walked back across the field asking what it could be he said How many things do you know that float in the air like that Joe i smiled as we walk i hear a woman’s voice call my name i says you hear that no he said then again Joe come , i said i will Steven called me crazy for talking to myself. We met my father and i told him about the strange thing in the woods he said go home and he would take a look. I got back home and told Steve i was staying in but instead went over the back garden fence and crept through Mrs Alan’s garden and ran back to where i had been. On the way met my father he said he couldn’t see anything and told me not to go back i said no i was going to stev just over there. So i got back to the wood and looked but it had gone i stood there so disappointed i remember saying in a loud voice "I’ve come back" i said it about four times then i sat down to think what it might have been.(this part i like most) i sat for about 10sec and lay down and fell asleep not the kind of sleep i have had before it was instantaneous.
The next thing i remember I am 15ft away from were i had fallen asleep and talking to myself or what i thought was Steve or someone but soon realised I am on my own I am stood next to a small tree holding its branch and my hands are vice tight around it and i can’t let go also my body is 50 times its weight i can’t move. Just able to move my head i look up and notice the sky is a lot darker than before and i start to panic but reassure myself by thinking "at least i no were i am frightened i manager to remove my hands from around the branch. The only way i could move was to fall to the floor sideways onto my left shoulder i remember thinking i hope there are no nettles on the floor when i fall. I am on the floor and roll over to my right side still paralyzed i manage to get to my hands and knees and craw out of the woods as i am i here my father shouting my name so i manage to shout back still on my knees. I wave at him he walks over i say I’ve fallen just give me a second. We start to walk back he then says where have you been i said in this wood he says you haven’t i said i been in there 5mins you must have seen me i was confused and angry i started crying and shouted "what’s happened" he said i told you not to go back and we returned home i think Steven had been looking also i remember him asking as we got home where have you we have been looking for you. In a nut shell what seemed like 5 minutes was i think more like 1 half to 2hrs.The same year i think and you have to opened minded about this David because even i have trouble in understanding it i find myself in a wooded area and I’m bare footed at night and thinking what is going on and very confused as you can imagine. Then i here a noise like a crow would make which is understandable as I am in the woods at the dead of night but i can feel something stalking me like a person.
Not knowing were i am i look up and see the trees above and by seeing this i have some idea were i am as i know the wood I’ve looked up a hundred times and recognise the place just a bit away from my parents’ house. I turn around hands in front of me feeling my way out still being stalked and hearing the strange sound i reach the barbed wire fence separating the field and that’s all i remember of that. I remember one morning not the same one i don’t remember i woke up and my mother came into my room and said "have you been outside you have mud all over your feet" i look down and the bottom of the bed is dirty with mud and there’s clay all over my feet i said no and for 5mins were wondering how this happened and that was that. In November the same year me and my friend Neil who lived next door to my parents’ house went to a large bank with are sledges as it had been snowing not far from where i saw the thing. It was about 6ish if i remember and when we got to we bank there were also two boys who lived down the road from us so we all went up and down the hill for a while. As we are at the top one of the boys says I’m tired and lies down inside his sledge the plastic ones we had back then not thinking this strange i says I’m going sleep to i remember Neil saying what are you doing and that’s the last i remember. Next thing I’m at the bottom of the hill in a foetus position inside my sledge. I hear voices i know are coming from the top of the hill and its my friends so i shouts "come and find me" they run down and ask were ide been (as they thought i had been hiding) i said here they said no you haven’t and kept asking the same thing i think i said what happened I’m not sure and Neil laughed and said "you alright Joe lad" i said yes .I asked how long had they been looking for me and Neil said about 1hr "We were going to call the police" he said oddly
stood talking for 10 minutes and all of a sudden a flash of light hit us like a camera flash going off we ran off up the hill each blaming the other for what had just happened and giggling and that is all i remember of that. I have come to the conclusion David that in 1983 in Wistaston Cheshire were i live i was witness to a string of events that cannot easily be explained i remember low flying helicopters at times and a friend telling me he spoke to an army truck today saying "you lost mate" i think his reply was "just doing some training" at least that’s what i remember him saying. Since 1983 I’ve read books and heard similar things and I’m very opened minded about ufology i hope to over the next couple of weeks or months to have hypnosis i just haven’t found the one i think is right but have spoken to a hypnosis recently just not the reason for the hypnosis (i hope she has a lie detector to that would be even better) but when i do i will let you know the outcome. Many thanks David and for giving me the opportunity to share my experience as i love telling it many thanks Joe Glover :)
Joe Glover
22/09/2016 20:59
Joe Glover
I have read books on the ufo subject since 2010, I should comment I had not read books in 1983 thanks again..
Hi David this is my Experience and what i witnessed in the summer of 1983 ok. Well this all started one weekend in August 83 i took my bike out as i did then and went to the woods on my own to ride around. As i entered the woods about 50mtr in front of me was a very small lady coming out of the woods but as i looked closer noticed wasn’t quite right about it was 4ft tall and the walk was odd and it also had a blanket of its head going down just passed the knees then it stopped. I soon realised something wasn’t right now you know when people say i can feel your stear because it did not turn its head but new i was looking at it so frightened i rode off quickly and as i did i heard the scariest scream ever not like a normal scream you would here say from an old lady oh the legs just below the knees were very thin not human like. So rode home told my mother to which i think she said don’t go back so i never. Several weeks later a sunny weekend me and my friend Steven went across the fields to play not far from where i had saw the thing. As we walked, me just in front of Steve i entered a small wooded area not very big and there in the centre of the wood about 40ft away was this small craft or object about 4 1/2 to 5ft long hovering about 4 to 5ft off the ground black and made no sound the best way i can describe the shape is of being like a stealth plane with no wings and came to a point at the end. I stood looking for 10sec completely amazed the object was alive i guess its energy was unmistakable it was as if it had its own time like it wasn’t afraid. Now at this point i get selfish because Steven hadn’t noticed it but i had and i wanted it for myself but then i said what is that and he basically shit his pants he screamed at me for us to go even threatened me at one point so i reluctantly went.
We walked back across the field asking what it could be he said How many things do you know that float in the air like that Joe i smiled as we walk i hear a woman’s voice call my name i says you hear that no he said then again Joe come , i said i will Steven called me crazy for talking to myself. We met my father and i told him about the strange thing in the woods he said go home and he would take a look. I got back home and told Steve i was staying in but instead went over the back garden fence and crept through Mrs Alan’s garden and ran back to where i had been. On the way met my father he said he couldn’t see anything and told me not to go back i said no i was going to stev just over there. So i got back to the wood and looked but it had gone i stood there so disappointed i remember saying in a loud voice "I’ve come back" i said it about four times then i sat down to think what it might have been.(this part i like most) i sat for about 10sec and lay down and fell asleep not the kind of sleep i have had before it was instantaneous.
The next thing i remember I am 15ft away from were i had fallen asleep and talking to myself or what i thought was Steve or someone but soon realised I am on my own I am stood next to a small tree holding its branch and my hands are vice tight around it and i can’t let go also my body is 50 times its weight i can’t move. Just able to move my head i look up and notice the sky is a lot darker than before and i start to panic but reassure myself by thinking "at least i no were i am frightened i manager to remove my hands from around the branch. The only way i could move was to fall to the floor sideways onto my left shoulder i remember thinking i hope there are no nettles on the floor when i fall. I am on the floor and roll over to my right side still paralyzed i manage to get to my hands and knees and craw out of the woods as i am i here my father shouting my name so i manage to shout back still on my knees. I wave at him he walks over i say I’ve fallen just give me a second. We start to walk back he then says where have you been i said in this wood he says you haven’t i said i been in there 5mins you must have seen me i was confused and angry i started crying and shouted "what’s happened" he said i told you not to go back and we returned home i think Steven had been looking also i remember him asking as we got home where have you we have been looking for you. In a nut shell what seemed like 5 minutes was i think more like 1 half to 2hrs.The same year i think and you have to opened minded about this David because even i have trouble in understanding it i find myself in a wooded area and I’m bare footed at night and thinking what is going on and very confused as you can imagine. Then i here a noise like a crow would make which is understandable as I am in the woods at the dead of night but i can feel something stalking me like a person.
Not knowing were i am i look up and see the trees above and by seeing this i have some idea were i am as i know the wood I’ve looked up a hundred times and recognise the place just a bit away from my parents’ house. I turn around hands in front of me feeling my way out still being stalked and hearing the strange sound i reach the barbed wire fence separating the field and that’s all i remember of that. I remember one morning not the same one i don’t remember i woke up and my mother came into my room and said "have you been outside you have mud all over your feet" i look down and the bottom of the bed is dirty with mud and there’s clay all over my feet i said no and for 5mins were wondering how this happened and that was that. In November the same year me and my friend Neil who lived next door to my parents’ house went to a large bank with are sledges as it had been snowing not far from where i saw the thing. It was about 6ish if i remember and when we got to we bank there were also two boys who lived down the road from us so we all went up and down the hill for a while. As we are at the top one of the boys says I’m tired and lies down inside his sledge the plastic ones we had back then not thinking this strange i says I’m going sleep to i remember Neil saying what are you doing and that’s the last i remember. Next thing I’m at the bottom of the hill in a foetus position inside my sledge. I hear voices i know are coming from the top of the hill and its my friends so i shouts "come and find me" they run down and ask were ide been (as they thought i had been hiding) i said here they said no you haven’t and kept asking the same thing i think i said what happened I’m not sure and Neil laughed and said "you alright Joe lad" i said yes .I asked how long had they been looking for me and Neil said about 1hr "We were going to call the police" he said oddly
stood talking for 10 minutes and all of a sudden a flash of light hit us like a camera flash going off we ran off up the hill each blaming the other for what had just happened and giggling and that is all i remember of that. I have come to the conclusion David that in 1983 in Wistaston Cheshire were i live i was witness to a string of events that cannot easily be explained i remember low flying helicopters at times and a friend telling me he spoke to an army truck today saying "you lost mate" i think his reply was "just doing some training" at least that’s what i remember him saying. Since 1983 I’ve read books and heard similar things and I’m very opened minded about ufology i hope to over the next couple of weeks or months to have hypnosis i just haven’t found the one i think is right but have spoken to a hypnosis recently just not the reason for the hypnosis (i hope she has a lie detector to that would be even better) but when i do i will let you know the outcome. Many thanks David and for giving me the opportunity to share my experience as i love telling it many thanks Joe Glover :)
Joe Glover
22/09/2016 20:59
Joe Glover
I have read books on the ufo subject since 2010, I should comment I had not read books in 1983 thanks again..
© CUFORG Dave Gillham
Between Saturday 26th Sept and Sat Oct 3rd 2009
Location The Warren/Pendola Walk in St Ives
Thanks very much for taking the time to take my call on Sunday evening. I very much appreciate it.
The reason I reached out to you, as head of the Cornwall UFO Research Group, is that I wanted to share my story which occurred sometime between Saturday 26th Sept and Sat Oct 3rd 2009. I can’t remember the exact day, as it’s now six years since the date in question, but I can confirm that my partner and I visited St Ives during that particular week.
We booked the holiday to take my partner’s parents (over from New Zealand) on a trip to Cornwall, an area of the UK we hold deep affection for. In fact we’ve holidayed in St Ives numerous times as well as Marazion, Hayle and the Scillies, but this was the first time we’d been there with my parents-in-law. At the time, my partner and I were living in London and we travelled to St Ives by car.
I remember the holiday well as it was a period of exceptionally warm weather and we swam in Porthminster beach which, whilst not unusual for that time of year, was still fantastic given it was late Sept/early Oct.
We were renting a two-bedroom, top floor flat in a cottage situated directly on The Warren/Pendola Walk in St Ives (very near to St Ives Arts Club). I don’t have the exact address details of the flat as my partner booked the accommodation but I’m sure I can dig it out if it’s necessary. It was an old house and my partner has just told me that it was the oldest on the books of the letting company - she selected it because she wanted an English character cottage for her Kiwi parents. The house looked directly out over the sea and was right at the water’s edge with rocks below.
The night in question had clear skies and my partner and I retired to bed as normal. Our bedroom overlooked St Ives Bay and directly opposite was the peninsular at the end of Hayle beach alongside the rocky outcrop of Godrevy Lighthouse.
At the dead of night, I’d estimate somewhere between 2am and 4am, I woke up and went over to the window to look out at the (calm) sea and night sky. What prompted me to do so remains a mystery and, given I had only just woken up, I was still in a slightly groggy state.
As I looked out, a huge black triangular craft rose up out of the water in the bay slowly, silently and steadily. It rose high up in the air, hovered for a second or two and then suddenly sped off to the north-east and in a millisecond vanished from view. I’d guess the whole episode took no more than ten to fifteen seconds.
What stands out for me:
It rose out of the sea in the middle of St Ives Bay. The craft just rose out of the water.
The craft was huge. I have no real reference points for exactly how large, but it was absolutely colossal. We’re talking football pitch size or even much larger. I can’t emphasise just how big this thing was.
- It was completely silent. If anything, this made the experience even weirder because with no noise the whole event seemed only half-real – like watching a TV screen with the sound on mute. Very strange.
- It was triangular in shape, black in colour. There were three large lights on each corner and a soft red light in the centre. It was however a different shade to the night sky as I could make out the edges and shape against the pitch black sky.
- It sped off at lightning speed. This again made it surreal, like something out of Star Trek. There was no sense of build-up. One moment it was rising and hovering gently, the next thing it just sped off at a speed that I can only describe as supersonic.
- It didn’t feel malevolent or menacing. During the episode I didn’t feel any fear or threat. The triangle UFO just had a feeling of ‘power’ about it.
- Can I draw it? I can’t draw at all, so I’ve scoured the net to find the nearest image to show what I saw. The illustration below is an almost perfect representation, and angle of view, although I can’t remember seeing a row of perimeter lights on one edge of the triangle (as is shown on the diagram below). The lights were perhaps slightly less ‘sharp’ and less bright than in the example below. The other thing I can’t represent is the sheer size of the craft. It was gargantuan.
( I did manage to get the witness to do a drawing of the triangle D.G)
Well, that’s it. Nothing more to add to the sighting.
On a personal note I found the event totally surreal. Part of me dismissed it as a figment of my imagination. Did I really just witness that? My partner woke up and says she found me ‘behaving bizarrely’, in an unsettled state, and staring out to sea. However, I have to be honest and say that within the hour I’d fallen back asleep and I hardly thought about the episode again for the entire holiday and far beyond.
That perhaps might seem strange. Shouldn’t I have been shaken up? Phone the police? Phone the local paper? Tell one’s friends and family? Etc
I think the reason I stayed quiet was because I felt no one would believe me. I didn’t have any photographic evidence nor witness corroboration. Moreover, given the fact that I just ‘happened’ to be at the right place at the right time, I could have been left wide open to ridicule.
Another reason is that I had been brought up on classical UFO imagery - smallish, round, silvery saucer shaped disks flying in the sky - and this was a big hulking black triangle rising out of the sea. I’d never heard about such things, nor seen photos, so I just figured there was no point talking about it.
Also, I didn’t need validation any more than I wanted to have a debate about it over a beer in the pub. What’s the point? I saw what I saw.
I found it difficult to integrate as an experience. A bit like walking down a high street and seeing a lady with no head walking down the pavement and passing by. Did I just see that? Nah….but hang on, I did…..Nah, weird…….dismiss it……..
It’s since been gnawing at my consciousness and a few years back I started researching aliens and UFOs in Cornwall and just read a few snippets here and there, but nothing to convince me that what I saw could be corroborated or substantiated in any way.
Over the last six months I have spent more time researching what I saw, just to see if it was a personal ‘anomaly’ or whether other people had seen a ‘big black triangle’ rising out of the sea. As soon as I found similar stories of people seeing the same thing in other parts of the world (see here), it’s given me the confidence to share my testimony with you.
I also feel the need to get the entire thing off my chest and share the story with someone knowledgeable on the topic. Finally, it made sense to tell you, as you are the person who heads up the Cornish UFO Research Group. I think it’s important you know what I saw in your area. I note with interest that the sighting falls (just) within your own website’s ‘Cornish triangle’ that covers St Ives Bay.
The reason I reached out to you, as head of the Cornwall UFO Research Group, is that I wanted to share my story which occurred sometime between Saturday 26th Sept and Sat Oct 3rd 2009. I can’t remember the exact day, as it’s now six years since the date in question, but I can confirm that my partner and I visited St Ives during that particular week.
We booked the holiday to take my partner’s parents (over from New Zealand) on a trip to Cornwall, an area of the UK we hold deep affection for. In fact we’ve holidayed in St Ives numerous times as well as Marazion, Hayle and the Scillies, but this was the first time we’d been there with my parents-in-law. At the time, my partner and I were living in London and we travelled to St Ives by car.
I remember the holiday well as it was a period of exceptionally warm weather and we swam in Porthminster beach which, whilst not unusual for that time of year, was still fantastic given it was late Sept/early Oct.
We were renting a two-bedroom, top floor flat in a cottage situated directly on The Warren/Pendola Walk in St Ives (very near to St Ives Arts Club). I don’t have the exact address details of the flat as my partner booked the accommodation but I’m sure I can dig it out if it’s necessary. It was an old house and my partner has just told me that it was the oldest on the books of the letting company - she selected it because she wanted an English character cottage for her Kiwi parents. The house looked directly out over the sea and was right at the water’s edge with rocks below.
The night in question had clear skies and my partner and I retired to bed as normal. Our bedroom overlooked St Ives Bay and directly opposite was the peninsular at the end of Hayle beach alongside the rocky outcrop of Godrevy Lighthouse.
At the dead of night, I’d estimate somewhere between 2am and 4am, I woke up and went over to the window to look out at the (calm) sea and night sky. What prompted me to do so remains a mystery and, given I had only just woken up, I was still in a slightly groggy state.
As I looked out, a huge black triangular craft rose up out of the water in the bay slowly, silently and steadily. It rose high up in the air, hovered for a second or two and then suddenly sped off to the north-east and in a millisecond vanished from view. I’d guess the whole episode took no more than ten to fifteen seconds.
What stands out for me:
It rose out of the sea in the middle of St Ives Bay. The craft just rose out of the water.
The craft was huge. I have no real reference points for exactly how large, but it was absolutely colossal. We’re talking football pitch size or even much larger. I can’t emphasise just how big this thing was.
- It was completely silent. If anything, this made the experience even weirder because with no noise the whole event seemed only half-real – like watching a TV screen with the sound on mute. Very strange.
- It was triangular in shape, black in colour. There were three large lights on each corner and a soft red light in the centre. It was however a different shade to the night sky as I could make out the edges and shape against the pitch black sky.
- It sped off at lightning speed. This again made it surreal, like something out of Star Trek. There was no sense of build-up. One moment it was rising and hovering gently, the next thing it just sped off at a speed that I can only describe as supersonic.
- It didn’t feel malevolent or menacing. During the episode I didn’t feel any fear or threat. The triangle UFO just had a feeling of ‘power’ about it.
- Can I draw it? I can’t draw at all, so I’ve scoured the net to find the nearest image to show what I saw. The illustration below is an almost perfect representation, and angle of view, although I can’t remember seeing a row of perimeter lights on one edge of the triangle (as is shown on the diagram below). The lights were perhaps slightly less ‘sharp’ and less bright than in the example below. The other thing I can’t represent is the sheer size of the craft. It was gargantuan.
( I did manage to get the witness to do a drawing of the triangle D.G)
Well, that’s it. Nothing more to add to the sighting.
On a personal note I found the event totally surreal. Part of me dismissed it as a figment of my imagination. Did I really just witness that? My partner woke up and says she found me ‘behaving bizarrely’, in an unsettled state, and staring out to sea. However, I have to be honest and say that within the hour I’d fallen back asleep and I hardly thought about the episode again for the entire holiday and far beyond.
That perhaps might seem strange. Shouldn’t I have been shaken up? Phone the police? Phone the local paper? Tell one’s friends and family? Etc
I think the reason I stayed quiet was because I felt no one would believe me. I didn’t have any photographic evidence nor witness corroboration. Moreover, given the fact that I just ‘happened’ to be at the right place at the right time, I could have been left wide open to ridicule.
Another reason is that I had been brought up on classical UFO imagery - smallish, round, silvery saucer shaped disks flying in the sky - and this was a big hulking black triangle rising out of the sea. I’d never heard about such things, nor seen photos, so I just figured there was no point talking about it.
Also, I didn’t need validation any more than I wanted to have a debate about it over a beer in the pub. What’s the point? I saw what I saw.
I found it difficult to integrate as an experience. A bit like walking down a high street and seeing a lady with no head walking down the pavement and passing by. Did I just see that? Nah….but hang on, I did…..Nah, weird…….dismiss it……..
It’s since been gnawing at my consciousness and a few years back I started researching aliens and UFOs in Cornwall and just read a few snippets here and there, but nothing to convince me that what I saw could be corroborated or substantiated in any way.
Over the last six months I have spent more time researching what I saw, just to see if it was a personal ‘anomaly’ or whether other people had seen a ‘big black triangle’ rising out of the sea. As soon as I found similar stories of people seeing the same thing in other parts of the world (see here), it’s given me the confidence to share my testimony with you.
I also feel the need to get the entire thing off my chest and share the story with someone knowledgeable on the topic. Finally, it made sense to tell you, as you are the person who heads up the Cornish UFO Research Group. I think it’s important you know what I saw in your area. I note with interest that the sighting falls (just) within your own website’s ‘Cornish triangle’ that covers St Ives Bay.
© CUFORG Dave Gillham
Location St Keverne on The Lizard Cornwall Around 2004.
Triangle Sighting St Keverne Year 2004
© CUFORG Dave Gillham
